• Charlie Kirk Murdered

    From Jopie@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Thursday, September 11, 2025 05:04:16
    In my eyes, the far-right Charlie Kirk was primarily an entertainer. He used tricks and a smooth talk to spread far-right ideas, and if you debated him, he had his tricks and ways to wriggle out of almost any awkward situation.

    Distractions, lies, accusations, and simply not answering.

    In my eyes, it was primarily a clown show.

    Time and again, he lost the debates he had on the merits, but the show must go on, and then you simply lie about it afterward. You couldn't touch him. He simply couldn't be humiliated. After all, he had no morals. There was nothing that could bring him down any further.

    His followers loved everything; his debate opponents mainly saw him as a clown.

    It was all too transparent for his political opponents.

    The Russians used his rhetoric in their attempts to swing the 2016 American election in Trump's favor. Charlie was never mentioned in the scheme where Russia paid influencers heavily to spew Russian propaganda.

    Some of his close friends and colleagues were caught cold in this act. Think of Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson.

    Charlie Kirk was a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. That's the right for citizens to bear firearms.

    When asked in the past how he felt about victims of gun violence, his response was that death was simply the price of that God-given freedom. He couldn't really care if it involved someone else.

    I think it's completely wrong that he was murdered. Freedom of speech is a great asset. He used and abused that freedom, and that's okay. He shouldn't have been murdered. That's truly wrong.

    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if others died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he have felt about it?

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  • From Lonewolf@VERT/TELEGODZ to Jopie on Thursday, September 11, 2025 17:04:28
    Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: Jopie to All on Thu Sep 11 2025 05:04 am

    In my eyes, the far-right Charlie Kirk was primarily an entertainer. He used tricks and a smooth talk to spread far-right ideas, and if you debated him, he had his tricks and ways to wriggle out of almost any awkward situation.

    Distractions, lies, accusations, and simply not answering.

    In my eyes, it was primarily a clown show.

    Time and again, he lost the debates he had on the merits, but the show must go on, and then you simply lie about it afterward. You couldn't touch him. He simply couldn't be humiliated. After all, he had no morals. There was nothing that could bring him down any further.

    His followers loved everything; his debate opponents mainly saw him as a clown.

    It was all too transparent for his political opponents.

    The Russians used his rhetoric in their attempts to swing the 2016 American election in Trump's favor. Charlie was never mentioned in the scheme where Russia paid influencers heavily to spew Russian propaganda.

    Some of his close friends and colleagues were caught cold in this act. Think of Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, and Benny Johnson.

    Charlie Kirk was a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. That's the right for citizens to bear firearms.

    When asked in the past how he felt about victims of gun violence, his response was that death was simply the price of that God-given freedom. He couldn't really care if it involved someone else.

    I think it's completely wrong that he was murdered. Freedom of speech is a great asset. He used and abused that freedom, and that's okay. He shouldn't have been murdered. That's truly wrong.

    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if others died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he have felt about it?


    Guns don't kill people, it's the coward on the other end that pulls the trigger...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JOPIE on Thursday, September 11, 2025 11:31:23
    Moving my reply to a more appropriate echo...

    In my eyes, the far-right Charlie Kirk was primarily an entertainer. He used tricks and a smooth talk to spread far-right ideas, and if you debated him, he
    had his tricks and ways to wriggle out of almost any awkward situation.

    Distractions, lies, accusations, and simply not answering.

    In my eyes, it was primarily a clown show.

    For the most part, I do agree, but the one thing he did do was to expose
    the fact that the right/MAGAs don't have a monopoly on lies,
    misinformation, information bias, and hypocracy. A lot of the college
    students he would have "discussions" with would display some or all of
    these issues.

    Overall, I didn't care for his message, but I also overall didn't usually care for the message of whoever he was being questioned by or debated.
    Right-wing wackos and left-wing wackos are all wackos in my book.

    I think it's completely wrong that he was murdered. Freedom of speech is a great asset. He used and abused that freedom, and that's okay. He shouldn't have been murdered. That's truly wrong.

    I agree. We shouldn't be murdering our political opponents, or anyone
    else, for that matter.

    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if others died b
    gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he have felt about it?

    I would not go as far as you but would say it is ironic. Reports have suggested that he was actually answering a 2nd ammendment related question
    when he was shot. I hope that authorities questioned the student that
    asked the question as that seems a little too coincidental to me.


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  • From Mickey@VERT/TRANSPO to Jopie on Thursday, September 11, 2025 19:55:44
    Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: Jopie to All on Thu Sep 11 2025 05:04:16

    In my eyes, the far-right Charlie Kirk was primarily an entertainer. He used tricks and a smooth talk to spread far-right ideas, and if you debated him, he had his tricks and ways to wriggle out of almost any awkward situation.

    An entertainer that used tricks to fool his debatees? I watched him daily and was very intriqued with his conversations and come-backs. I will miss him. If you feel it was errrr ok that he was shot, you are the problem with this world.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Lonewolf on Thursday, September 11, 2025 21:59:52
    Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: Lonewolf to Jopie on Thu Sep 11 2025 05:04 pm

    I think it's completely wrong that he was murdered. Freedom of speech
    is a great asset. He used and abused that freedom, and that's okay.
    He shouldn't have been murdered. That's truly wrong.

    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if
    others died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself.
    Then you wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he
    have felt about it?


    Guns don't kill people, it's the coward on the other end that pulls
    the trigger...



    this shit should probably be moved to debate.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Mickey on Friday, September 12, 2025 07:01:04
    Mickey wrote to Jopie <=-

    An entertainer that used tricks to fool his debatees? I watched him
    daily and was very intriqued with his conversations and come-backs. I
    will miss him. If you feel it was errrr ok that he was shot, you are
    the problem with this world.

    Most of the comments I've seen call the violence deplorable (especially with his family watching) but for someone who recently said that some people
    will need to die to preserve the second amendment, the irony seems overwhelming.



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  • From Cozmo@VERT/LUN to Jopie on Friday, September 12, 2025 13:54:00
    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if others died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you
    wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he have felt about it?

    Really! You sound so compassionite. Is this all you can say about his assination? He had a wife and two children and you say "Karma is a bitch"
    Sounds to me like you don't care if "others" kill murdered or at least conservatives.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Cozmo on Friday, September 12, 2025 14:24:47
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: Cozmo to Jopie on Fri Sep 12 2025 01:54 pm

    didn't mind if others died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you wonder... If he had known that beforehand,
    how would he have felt about it?

    Really! You sound so compassionite. Is this all you can say about
    his assination? He had a wife and two children and you say "Karma
    is a bitch" Sounds to me like you don't care if "others" kill
    murdered or at least conservatives.


    please take this to debate. i've been moving his shit and replying to it.
    this trolling topic is for debate.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ALL on Friday, September 12, 2025 10:07:03
    Moving my reply to a more appropriate echo...

    LOL, thought I moved it but didn't. Ooops! ;)


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Cozmo on Friday, September 12, 2025 14:47:08
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: Cozmo to Jopie on Fri Sep 12 2025 01:54 pm

    But that he died by a firearm... Well, that's the price of the Second
    Amendment, in his own words. Karma is a bitch. He didn't mind if others
    died by gun violence. Now he's become a victim himself. Then you
    wonder... If he had known that beforehand, how would he have felt about
    it?

    Really! You sound so compassionite. Is this all you can say about his assination? He had a wife and two children and you say "Karma is a bitch" Sounds to me like you don't care if "others" kill murdered or at least conservatives.

    "I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage"
    --Charlie Kirk

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLTBBS to Lonewolf on Friday, September 12, 2025 13:52:08
    Guns don't kill people, it's the coward on the other end that
    pulls the trigger...

    Exactly.

    Daryl

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